Does America want a country without police? A new poll says absolutely not.


WASHINGTON D.C. – If all you did was listen to social media and mainstream media, you’d be shocked to realize that the overwhelming majority of Americans do not support recent proposals to defund, and even abolish the police.

A recent poll conducted by “The Economist” found that 53% of Americans oppose defunding police departments.

The same poll found that 24% were in favor, and 24% were unsure as to their thoughts on the matter.

In the very same poll, respondents were asked whether they supported “abolishing the police.” 73% of those polled opposed the idea, 11% supported, and the remaining 16% were unsure.

Even among Democrats, the idea of abolishing the police is overwhelmingly rejected. 63% of Democrats were against the idea that some within the radical wing of their party have put forth.

Think this poll is an outlier? Think again.

Another poll released last week from Politico asked voters their thoughts on defunding the police. The response? No.

While 28% of those asked were in favor, 58% opposed, with another 14% claiming unsure or no opinion.

An ABC News poll released just days before the Politico poll found similar results. Voters were asked about not only the general movement to “defund the police,” but also whether they supported reducing the budget of the police department to shift money to housing, education, and mental health initiatives, even if it meant less police officers.

The majority of those polled rejected both ideas.

In regards to defunding the police, 64% opposed while 34% supported. When asked about reallocating money from the police department budget, 60% opposed while 39% supported.

A Yahoo News/YouGov poll released after the death of George Floyd showed results similar to those mentioned in this article. 65% of those surveyed said no when asked about cutting funding to police departments. Only 16% favored the idea with the remaining 19% saying they were unsure.

Despite what you may hear on social media and by some virtue signaling politicians, Americans are clear.

Poll after poll shows people rejecting the idea of a society with a defunded or even abolished police. The rise of social media in recent years has given the extreme segments of the population a platform that allows for a distortion of reality.

It is clear that the social media world is not representative of the general public, as demonstrated by the many polls cited in this article.

How about some context as to what’s happening?

With a Defund the Police movement expanding, there has been a noticeable increase in deadly shootings in major U.S. cities this past Father’s Day weekend.

In Chicago, Fox 32 reported that 102 people were shot over Father’s Day weekend and that 14 died, making it the city’s highest number of shooting victims in a single weekend this year.

In Minneapolis, 12 people were shot early Sunday morning while waiting outside a restaurant, according to a Fox 9 report. One of the victims died.

The Defund the Police movement comes on the heels of the controversial death of George Floyd, who died in Minneapolis while under police custody. After the first videos of Floyd’s death went viral online just hours later, the movement became a rallying cry that triggered protests across the nation.

The modern epicenter of the movement is Minneapolis, where a variety of groups motivated by past episodes of police brutality have been organizing for nearly a decade, according to Politico.

Oluchi Omeoga, an organizer and core team member with the Black Visions Collective, told Politico:

“It’s different than the 2013, 2012, 2017 iteration of the Black Lives Matter movement. We’re no longer asking for convictions or folks to be indicted. We’re asking for an actual narrative shift, a seismic shift in the systems of police.”

It appears to be making an impact as cities in Minneapolis, California, Washington and New York have proposed limited roles and reductions in the annual budgets of police departments.

According to a Fox News report, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio vowed to cut the police department’s funding.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) also supports defunding the police department’s $6 billion budget and said it “costs us books in the hands of our children and costs us very badly needed investment in NYCHA and public housing.”

House Democrats are also preparing a police reform bill, but say it does not call for abolishing or defunding police.

Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.) told Politico that Republicans are focusing on the Defund the Police movement and not the actual substance of the bill:

“They’re talking about defunding the police. The bill has nothing to do with that.”

In Washington, meanwhile, the Seattle Police Department has closed its headquarters front counter services and precinct facilities to the public and handed the precinct over to protesters.

After several days of demonstrations and unrest, the police department abandoned its East Precinct within the city’s Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP) zone, where protesters have taken over several blocks.

Police Chief Carmen Best addressed her officers in a video message:

“You should know, leaving the precinct was not my decision. You fought for days to protect it. I asked you to stand on that line. Day in and day out, to be pelted with projectiles, to be screamed at, threatened and in some cases hurt. Then to have a change of course nearly two weeks in, it seems like an insult to you and our community.”

Residents in this now police-free zone are frustrated and scared, according to King 5 News.

Best told reporters that the police department’s calls for services have tripled:

“These are responses to emergency calls — rapes, robberies, and all sorts of violent acts that have been occurring in the area that we’re not able to get to.”

On June 20, Seattle police responded to a report of shots fired in the CHOP zone and attempted to locate victims. According to the police department’s press release, the officers “were met by a violent crowd that prevented officers safe access to the victims.”

Officers were later informed that the victims, both males, had been transported to Harborview Medical Center by CHOP ‘medics.’ When police arrived at the hospital, they were informed a 19-year-old male died from his injuries and the other victim had life-threatening injuries.

Seattle Police Officers Guild President Michael Solan said in an interview with Fox and Friends Weekend that it is a “summer of chaos.”

Democratic Mayor Jenny Durkan had proclaimed this would be a summer of love, but her remark did not age well.

In an interview Thursday, prior to the deadly shooting in CHOP, Mayor Durkan acknowledged her poor choice of words.

She said:

“I clearly said that in jest, it probably was not the smart thing to do.”

Solan said:

“So, we’re in a very, very troubling time in Seattle and it’s deeply concerning. Everybody across this country needs to be aware of what’s going on in Seattle.”

Solan’s Twitter feed is alive with encouragement to the Seattle community, saying that despite the politicians having abandoned the CHAZ/CHOP area, the police remain dedicated to keeping the people of Seattle safe. He has also been vocal in asking the city’s leadership to, you know, lead.

Law Enforcement Today has been reporting on the area of Seattle lost to the city. Here’s the most recent story we brought you.

Another person was shot in the Seattle “autonomous zone” late Sunday night.  And sources in the Seattle Police Department told Law Enforcement Today that the police and fire departments were ‘prevented’ from responding to the incident.

It happened in Seattle’s “autonomous zone,” which is now being referred to as the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP) and was previously called Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ).

The shooting took place just before 11 p.m. local time, and comes after two people were shot Saturday morning.  That shooting left one person dead and the other in critical condition.

The latest shooting occurred shortly before 11 p.m. Sunday night.

There’s a report that a second person was also shot on Sunday night – but Seattle police have been unable to confirm that and say they are interviewing the first victim at Harborview Medical Center.

The condition of that person hasn’t been released, nor has any information on suspects.

Early Saturday, we reported on a shooting inside Seattle’s Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP) area that left one person dead and another injured.

Now sources inside the Seattle Police Department tell us that there’s ‘misinformation’ intentionally coming out of the city.

Here’s what we do know so far that’s accurate and confirmed.

Police are investigating the shooting, despite it being in a “no-cop” zone of the city.  It happened around 2:20 a.m. local time.

Videos hit the internet showing volunteer medics racing to help the victims.  This, after Seattle Police Department radio dispatchers got multiple reports of three to six gunshots.

Officers arrived to the scene on foot and were prepared with riot gear – or “anti-protest gear”, as Newsweek referred to it.

According to East Precinct police radio chatter, a second victim had a gunshot wound to the arm and chest and officers on scene were collecting shell casings and evidence.

Capitol Hill Seattle Blog reported Saturday that Seattle Fire had been called to the scene to treat the victim, but that person had already been transported by volunteers to Harborview.

Local videographers from Converge Media first reported that one of the individuals who was shot had been driven by “non-ambulance locals” to the Harborview protest camp.  That camp is staffed by medical volunteers.

According to the Capitol Hill Seattle Blog, the man was dead when he arrived at the volunteer medical camp – although medical experts haven’t publicly verified this.

In the footage, several people on the street said one of the victims was dead in front of the Rancho Bravo restaurant at 10th and Pine Street.

Here’s where things start going downhill.

Sources within the Seattle Police Department tell us that the Mayor’s office is insisting that all communication go through her office.  We’re told this is unprecedented – typically a public information officer for Seattle PD would be handling media affairs.

Our sources tell us that the Mayor’s office is trying to spin a very specific narrative and that it’s false.

The information being shared is that “white males” were seen fleeing the scene north from 10th Avenue and East Pine street in a pickup truck.

This is also in the city’s Capitol Hill autonomous protest zone, also called CHAZ.

The problem with that, as pointed out by our sources, is that “white males” couldn’t have “escaped in a pickup truck”… because the zone is barricaded.

At this point, the investigation is still ongoing and we’re told by other officers in Seattle PD that many in the area are being “uncooperative, to say the least”.

All of this is happening as the “protestors” release their list of demands.

You may remember that on June 8th, Seattle Police abandoned the closest East Precinct building.  The move came after days of confrontations with protesters.

Enter what is known in Seattle as “CHOP” (Capital Hill Occupied Protest). This is a six block area of downtown Seattle that has been blocked off by protesters who are trying to create what they call a “police-free zone.”

While Mayor Jenny Durkan naively compares this zone to a “block party,” residents and businesses in the area certainly aren’t feeling the festive mood.

As Law Enforcement Today has previously reported, John McDermott, a co-owner of Car Tender, an auto shop located just outside of CHOP, claimed that police never showed up to his 911 calls about a fire and burglary in progress.

John McDermott is far from the only person who appears to be fed up with “CHOP.”

Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best complained during a press conference on June 11, that her department’s response time to crimes in progress has tripled, as a result of this Autonomous Zone.

Best said:

“The difference in that amount of time could prevent someone’s life [being lost] and prevent a violent attack.”

Best further reminded people to think about their mothers, cousins, sisters and neighbors being raped, robbed and assaulted and questioned if they’d want them to wait three times longer for services.

Now there has been a shooting-turned-murder in the autonomous zone. The victim was brought to a “volunteer medical station” before they let in the real medical help. 

It isn’t just the police and medical services who are having a hard time.

Srujan and his fiancée live in a building that borders Cal Anderson Park, which has been filled with protesters for weeks.

Srujan told local news outlet, KING-TV:

“We’re not even here most of the time. I’m scared to live here. It’s just not conducive. What you want from a home is a stress-free environment. You want to be able to sleep well, you want to feel comfortable and we just don’t feel comfortable right now.”

The couple mentioned that they will be staying away from the area until things clear up.

Will this be any time soon?

According to one of the group’s main organizers, Jaiden Grayson, that might not be the case. He told film maker Amy Horowitz:

“I’m here to disrupt until my demands are met. You cannot rebuild until you break it all the way down.”

Grayson also states that he’s not “here to peacefully protest,” leading some to believe that violence might ensue if the city does not satisfy their demands.

Mayor Jenny Durkan may be basking in the moment of this extremist group that has taken over a six block area of her city, but businesses and residents are clearly fed up.

While radical segments of the population call for the abolishment of police, residents in and around Seattle’s “CHOP” are seeing what that may look like, and it’s certainly no block party for them.

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Here are a list of demands from the CHOP.

-The Seattle Police Department and attached court system are beyond reform. We do not request reform, we demand abolition. We demand that the Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus.

This means 100% of funding, including existing pensions for Seattle Police. At an equal level of priority we also demand that the city disallow the operations of ICE in the city of Seattle.

-In the transitionary period between now and the dismantlement of the Seattle Police Department, we demand that the use of armed force be banned entirely. No guns, no batons, no riot shields, no chemical weapons, especially against those exercising their First Amendment right as Americans to protest.

-We demand an end to the school-to-prison pipeline and the abolition of youth jails. Get kids out of prison, get cops out of schools. We also demand that the new youth prison being built in Seattle currently be repurposed.

-We demand that not the City government, nor the State government, but that the Federal government launch a full-scale investigation into past and current cases of police brutality in Seattle and Washington, as well as the re-opening of all closed cases reported to the Office of Police Accountability.

In particular, we demand that cases particular to Seattle and Washington be reopened where no justice has been served, namely the cases of Iosia Faletogo, Damarius Butts, Isaiah Obet, Tommy Le, Shaun Fuhr, and Charleena Lyles.

-We demand reparations for victims of police brutality, in a form to be determined.

-We demand that the City of Seattle make the names of officers involved in police brutality a matter of public record. Anonymity should not even be a privilege in public service.

-We demand a retrial of all People in Color currently serving a prison sentence for violent crime, by a jury of their peers in their community.

-We demand decriminalization of the acts of protest, and amnesty for protestors generally, but specifically those involved in what has been termed “The George Floyd Rebellion” against the terrorist cell that previously occupied this area known as the Seattle Police Department.

This includes the immediate release of all protestors currently being held in prison after the arrests made at 11th and Pine on Sunday night and early Saturday morning June 7th and 8th, and any other protesters arrested in the past two weeks of the uprising, the name Evan Hreha in particular comes to mind who filmed Seattle police macing a young girl and is now in jail.

-We demand that the City of Seattle and the State Government release any prisoner currently serving time for a marijuana-related offense and expunge the related conviction.

-We demand the City of Seattle and State Government release any prisoner currently serving time just for resisting arrest if there are no other related charges, and that those convictions should also be expunged.

-We demand that prisoners currently serving time be given the full and unrestricted right to vote, and for Washington State to pass legislation specifically breaking from Federal law that prevents felons from being able to vote.

-We demand an end to prosecutorial immunity for police officers in the time between now and the dissolution of the SPD and extant justice system.

-We demand the abolition of imprisonment, generally speaking, but especially the abolition of both youth prisons and privately-owned, for-profit prisons.

-We demand in replacement of the current criminal justice system the creation of restorative/transformative accountability programs as a replacement for imprisonment.

-We demand autonomy be given to the people to create localized anti-crime systems.

-We demand that the Seattle Police Department, between now and the time of its abolition in the near future, empty its “lost and found” and return property owned by denizens of the city.

-We demand justice for those who have been sexually harassed or abused by the Seattle Police Department or prison guards in the state of Washington.

-We demand that between now and the abolition of the SPD that each and every SPD officer turn on their body cameras, and that the body camera video of all Seattle police should be a matter of easily accessible public record.

-We demand that the funding previously used for Seattle Police be redirected into:

A) Socialized Health and Medicine for the City of Seattle.

B) Free public housing, because housing is a right, not a privilege.

C) Public education, to decrease the average class size in city schools and increase teacher salary.

D) Naturalization services for immigrants to the United States living here undocumented. (We demand they be called “undocumented” because no person is illegal.)

E) General community development. Parks, etc.

We also have economic demands that must be addressed.

-We demand the de-gentrification of Seattle, starting with rent control.

-We demand the restoration of city funding for arts and culture to re-establish the once-rich local cultural identity of Seattle.

-We demand free college for the people of the state of Washington, due to the overwhelming effect that education has on economic success, and the correlated overwhelming impact of poverty on people of color, as a form of reparations for the treatment of Black people in this state and country.

-We demand that between now and the abolition of the SPD that Seattle Police be prohibited from performing “homeless sweeps” that displace and disturb our homeless neighbors, and on equal footing we demand an end to all evictions.

-We demand a decentralized election process to give the citizens of Seattle a greater ability to select candidates for public office such that we are not forced to choose at the poll between equally undesirable options.

There are multiple systems and policies in place which make it impractical at best for working-class people to run for public office, all of which must go, starting with any fees associated with applying to run for public office.

Related to economic demands, we also have demands pertaining to what we would formally call “Health and Human Services.”

-We demand the hospitals and care facilities of Seattle employ black doctors and nurses specifically to help care for black patients.

-We demand the people of Seattle seek out and proudly support Black-owned businesses. Your money is our power and sustainability.

-We demand that the city create an entirely separate system staffed by mental health experts to respond to 911 calls pertaining to mental health crises, and insist that all involved in such a program be put through thorough, rigorous training in conflict de-escalation.

Finally, let us now address our demands regarding the education system in the City of Seattle and State of Washington.

-We demand that the history of Black and Native Americans be given a significantly greater focus in the Washington State education curriculum.

-We demand that thorough anti-bias training become a legal requirement for all jobs in the education system, as well as in the medical profession and in mass media.

-We demand the City of Seattle and State of Washington remove any and all monuments dedicated to historical figures of the Confederacy, whose treasonous attempts to build an America with slavery as a permanent fixture were an affront to the human race.

Oh, is that all?

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